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I'm here joined by Mark Mislop to talk
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I'm here joined by Mark Mislop to talk
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about a subst essay that you posted this
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about a subst essay that you posted this
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afternoon Markhamm called the Alberta as
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afternoon Markhamm called the Alberta as
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the 51st state Jeff Wrath's mega fever
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the 51st state Jeff Wrath's mega fever
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dream. Now, what struck me about this
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dream. Now, what struck me about this
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essay really is about this dangerous
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essay really is about this dangerous
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political rhetoric. And usually you
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political rhetoric. And usually you
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would just invite Jeff onto the show and
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would just invite Jeff onto the show and
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uh talk to him, but maybe you could talk
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uh talk to him, but maybe you could talk
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to us a little bit about who is Jeff
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to us a little bit about who is Jeff
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Wrath and why isn't he on the show?
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Wrath and why isn't he on the show?
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>> Well, thanks MC. Uh yeah, as a rule,
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>> Well, thanks MC. Uh yeah, as a rule,
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journalists when they are going to write
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journalists when they are going to write
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about or talk about uh an individual the
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about or talk about uh an individual the
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you know the rule of thumb is that you
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you know the rule of thumb is that you
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you issue them an invitation for an
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you issue them an invitation for an
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interview so that they can speak for
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interview so that they can speak for
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themselves and and you know explain
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themselves and and you know explain
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their their point of view uh on whatever
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their their point of view uh on whatever
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the issue is. I didn't do that this time
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the issue is. I didn't do that this time
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because Jeff Wrath is a very polarizing
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because Jeff Wrath is a very polarizing
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figure. He he is a uh he's the lead
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figure. He he is a uh he's the lead
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council for the Alberta P prosperity
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council for the Alberta P prosperity
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project which is advocating for Alberta
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project which is advocating for Alberta
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to break away from Canada and join the
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to break away from Canada and join the
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United States as a 51st state. He's been
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United States as a 51st state. He's been
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going down to Washington meeting with
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going down to Washington meeting with
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what he calls senior Trump
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what he calls senior Trump
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administration officials who he won't
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administration officials who he won't
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name which is problematic so we can't
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name which is problematic so we can't
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verify any of this. Uh but he's he is
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verify any of this. Uh but he's he is
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full on mega language and very his uh uh
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full on mega language and very his uh uh
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his comments are always full of
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his comments are always full of
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conspiracy theory language and uh I I
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conspiracy theory language and uh I I
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really in this case I didn't think that
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really in this case I didn't think that
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I could have a constructive interview
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I could have a constructive interview
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with him. You know I mean I interview
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with him. You know I mean I interview
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people all the time that I don't that I
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people all the time that I don't that I
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disagree with and sometimes you know we
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disagree with and sometimes you know we
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we have a back and forth. we we put out
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we have a back and forth. we we put out
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our arguments and see who who uh has the
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our arguments and see who who uh has the
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best one. He's not that kind of guy.
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best one. He's not that kind of guy.
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Despite the fact that as a lawyer he's
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Despite the fact that as a lawyer he's
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argued in front of the Supreme Court and
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argued in front of the Supreme Court and
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he clearly knows how to argue, uh his
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he clearly knows how to argue, uh his
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public commentary, his public the way he
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public commentary, his public the way he
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behaves, it's pretty clear that it's
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behaves, it's pretty clear that it's
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about ideology. It's not about evidence.
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about ideology. It's not about evidence.
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It's not about the quality of his
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It's not about the quality of his
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argument. It is this is about ideology.
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argument. It is this is about ideology.
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And so instead of doing that uh I used
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two interviews that he did with CTV uh a
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two interviews that he did with CTV uh a
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reporter where he explained you know his
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reporter where he explained you know his
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uh organization the you know what it's
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uh organization the you know what it's
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trying to do and so on and it was the
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trying to do and so on and it was the
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language in that interview that I
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language in that interview that I
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focused on in this essay.
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focused on in this essay.
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>> Well and you open the essay and close
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>> Well and you open the essay and close
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the essay by saying that words matter
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the essay by saying that words matter
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and I think that that's really
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and I think that that's really
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important. And how do we do we see Wrath
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important. And how do we do we see Wrath
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as, you know, kind of this fringe
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as, you know, kind of this fringe
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activist or is this someone that we need
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activist or is this someone that we need
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to take seriously as a democratic risk
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to take seriously as a democratic risk
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and as a a risk to um, you know,
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and as a a risk to um, you know,
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potentially Alberta leaving the
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potentially Alberta leaving the
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Confederation?
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>> Right now, polls show that there's about
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>> Right now, polls show that there's about
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15 to 20% support for separatism in
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15 to 20% support for separatism in
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Alberta. Maybe you could stretch that
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Alberta. Maybe you could stretch that
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out to 30%, depending on how you ask the
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out to 30%, depending on how you ask the
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has the ask the question. The concern
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has the ask the question. The concern
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here is not uh whether or not there's,
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here is not uh whether or not there's,
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you know, 51% of Albertans support uh
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you know, 51% of Albertans support uh
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leaving uh Confederation. It's a Brexit
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leaving uh Confederation. It's a Brexit
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style situation where you know back in
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style situation where you know back in
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2016 when the UK voted in a referendum
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2016 when the UK voted in a referendum
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to leave the European Union and the it
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to leave the European Union and the it
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was full the campaign was full of lies
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was full the campaign was full of lies
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and misinformation and outside
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and misinformation and outside
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interference by polit you know malicious
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interference by polit you know malicious
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political actors and and now you know a
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political actors and and now you know a
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lot of that they've left the EU uh many
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lot of that they've left the EU uh many
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many Britons think understand that they
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many Britons think understand that they
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were sold a bill of goods that it wasn't
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what that that they were lied do. And
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what that that they were lied do. And
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that's what worries people and worries
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me frankly about this is that uh if the
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provincial government decides to put a
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uh a ballot uh sorry a question a
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uh a ballot uh sorry a question a
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referendum question on the ballot that
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referendum question on the ballot that
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then the the you campaign to support to
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then the the you campaign to support to
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misinformation and lies and and so on.
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misinformation and lies and and so on.
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very important here because I think in
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very important here because I think in
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my opinion it it disqualifies him as a
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my opinion it it disqualifies him as a
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serious uh spokesperson or a serious
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serious uh spokesperson or a serious
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player in this in this debate because
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player in this in this debate because
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it's so full I mean Jeff Wrath uh if
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it's so full I mean Jeff Wrath uh if
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you've ever been on a social media where
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you've ever been on a social media where
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you're talking to someone let's say from
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you're talking to someone let's say from
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the United States and uh you know
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the United States and uh you know
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they're a mega Trump supporter in the
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they're a mega Trump supporter in the
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mega culture. This is full of that
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mega culture. This is full of that
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language and it's very clear that uh
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language and it's very clear that uh
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that Mr. Wrath is believes in many of
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that Mr. Wrath is believes in many of
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these conspiracy theories, uses that
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these conspiracy theories, uses that
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kind of language and it's just I don't
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kind of language and it's just I don't
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know how you have a rational
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know how you have a rational
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conversation with somebody like that.
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conversation with somebody like that.
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But given the amount of public attention
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But given the amount of public attention
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that he's getting, the number of TV
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that he's getting, the number of TV
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interviews and other podcast interviews
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interviews and other podcast interviews
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and so on, that I think it's important
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and so on, that I think it's important
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to point out just uh what his mindset,
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to point out just uh what his mindset,
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what his where uh what his view of the
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what his where uh what his view of the
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world, what his worldview is, maybe is a
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world, what his worldview is, maybe is a
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good way to explain it.
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good way to explain it.
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>> Well, and I want to get into the
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>> Well, and I want to get into the
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nittyritty of the words that he uses.
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nittyritty of the words that he uses.
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And one of them is communist Canada,
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And one of them is communist Canada,
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communist Ottawa, the communist
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communist Ottawa, the communist
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government in Ottawa, the communist new
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government in Ottawa, the communist new
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world over. Obviously, communism is a
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world over. Obviously, communism is a
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big theme here. Uh resource slaves. He
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big theme here. Uh resource slaves. He
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he really he repeated these things
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he really he repeated these things
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several times um and in about a 5minute
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several times um and in about a 5minute
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period. And you know, obviously that
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period. And you know, obviously that
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seems like a deliberate strategy. So
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seems like a deliberate strategy. So
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give give me your take on that.
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give give me your take on that.
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Well, in the one interview that he did,
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Well, in the one interview that he did,
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uh, it was five minutes long, uh, and
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uh, it was five minutes long, uh, and
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there were 38, uh, conspiracy theory
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there were 38, uh, conspiracy theory
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words or phrases that he used, it's like
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words or phrases that he used, it's like
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one every, you know, 8 seconds. Uh, and
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one every, you know, 8 seconds. Uh, and
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the communist uh, slur, if you will, you
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the communist uh, slur, if you will, you
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know, everything that you don't like is
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know, everything that you don't like is
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communist. But after a while, when you
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communist. But after a while, when you
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hear it as much as this, I mean, it's
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hear it as much as this, I mean, it's
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very clear to me that Mr. Wrath actually
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very clear to me that Mr. Wrath actually
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believes that Canada is a communist
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believes that Canada is a communist
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country, that Ottawa is, you know, the
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country, that Ottawa is, you know, the
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federal government is a communist
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federal government is a communist
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government. Uh he calls uh BC Premier
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government. Uh he calls uh BC Premier
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David Eie. Uh he says that they're in
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David Eie. Uh he says that they're in
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control of the Alberta oil field. He
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control of the Alberta oil field. He
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says, you know, David Eie and communist
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says, you know, David Eie and communist
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China uh are, you know, control the
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China uh are, you know, control the
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Alberta oil field. Really? I thought the
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Alberta oil field. Really? I thought the
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Alberta oil field was controlled by the
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Alberta oil field was controlled by the
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Alberta government and the companies
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Alberta government and the companies
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that operated the I had no idea that
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that operated the I had no idea that
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communist China did that sort of thing
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communist China did that sort of thing
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from so you know the oh and uh and then
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from so you know the oh and uh and then
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the other globalist there's another one
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the other globalist there's another one
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so communist he accuses Canada of doing
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so communist he accuses Canada of doing
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communist China's globalist bidding I
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communist China's globalist bidding I
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mean these are all in my opinion these
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mean these are all in my opinion these
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are like just whack wacky you know out
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are like just whack wacky you know out
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there fringe kind of ideas and they
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there fringe kind of ideas and they
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permeate his his conversations, permeate
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permeate his his conversations, permeate
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his answers to the reporter's questions.
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his answers to the reporter's questions.
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>> Well, and and we've talked about a new
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>> Well, and and we've talked about a new
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world order. Uh you know, we had uh Mark
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world order. Uh you know, we had uh Mark
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Carney and Devos talking about you know,
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Carney and Devos talking about you know,
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you using that that type of terminology.
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you using that that type of terminology.
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And then we have um you know, Jeff Wrath
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And then we have um you know, Jeff Wrath
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here saying new world order, repeating
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here saying new world order, repeating
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it, the communist new world order, um
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it, the communist new world order, um
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globalist bidding. So, because this is a
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globalist bidding. So, because this is a
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bit confusing, you know, if we're
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bit confusing, you know, if we're
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talking about a new world order, you
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talking about a new world order, you
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know, from from Carney's perspective
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know, from from Carney's perspective
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versus Wrath's perspective, can you can
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versus Wrath's perspective, can you can
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you explain that a bit for us?
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you explain that a bit for us?
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>> I would imagine, MC, that Prime Minister
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>> I would imagine, MC, that Prime Minister
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Mark Carney does not dabble in
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Mark Carney does not dabble in
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conspiracy theories very much. And so uh
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conspiracy theories very much. And so uh
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for him what he meant when he said new
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for him what he meant when he said new
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world order is he meant that the old
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world order is he meant that the old
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world order that rose out of 1945 after
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world order that rose out of 1945 after
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the end of the second world war and it
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the end of the second world war and it
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was it was led by the United States and
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was it was led by the United States and
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it was a rules-based
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it was a rules-based
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uh trading order and and geopolitical
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uh trading order and and geopolitical
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order. And so it it focused on building
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order. And so it it focused on building
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institutions like the World Trade
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institutions like the World Trade
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Organization, the World Health
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Organization, the United Nations, and on
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and on that were run by rules. And so
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and on that were run by rules. And so
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everybody had the same common set of
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everybody had the same common set of
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rules. And it didn't it was not perfect
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rules. And it didn't it was not perfect
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by any stretch because the big players
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by any stretch because the big players
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would play outside the rules when it
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would play outside the rules when it
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when it cho when it, you know, when they
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when it cho when it, you know, when they
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chose to that sort of thing. But all all
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chose to that sort of thing. But all all
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in all, it worked as well as it could
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in all, it worked as well as it could
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have been expected to. And frankly,
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have been expected to. And frankly,
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Canada benefited from it. I mean, Carney
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Canada benefited from it. I mean, Carney
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makes this point over and over again is
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makes this point over and over again is
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that, you know, we had a a fairly
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that, you know, we had a a fairly
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extended period of peace and and
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extended period of peace and and
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prosperity and our trade grew and on and
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prosperity and our trade grew and on and
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on and the election, I mean, the that
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on and the election, I mean, the that
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order has been under pressure for 15 or
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order has been under pressure for 15 or
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20 years, you know, sort of fractures in
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20 years, you know, sort of fractures in
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the in the uh in the order. Uh and then
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the in the uh in the order. Uh and then
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Donald Trump blew it up when he became
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Donald Trump blew it up when he became
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president uh in January uh of 2025.
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president uh in January uh of 2025.
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He just basically started withdrawing
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He just basically started withdrawing
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the United States from all you know from
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the United States from all you know from
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many of those and and very explicitly
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many of those and and very explicitly
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said we're done. We're not doing that
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said we're done. We're not doing that
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anymore. You know, we're going to a
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anymore. You know, we're going to a
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great power sphere of influence the way
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great power sphere of influence the way
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it used to be in the 19th century. So by
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it used to be in the 19th century. So by
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great powers he means uh the US, China
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great powers he means uh the US, China
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and to some you know also Russia and and
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and to some you know also Russia and and
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everybody else you know the middle
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everybody else you know the middle
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powers and the lesser the little powers
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powers and the lesser the little powers
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if you want uh would then have to be you
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if you want uh would then have to be you
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know sort of manage around the great
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know sort of manage around the great
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powers like the United States and he
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powers like the United States and he
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likes that because Trump loves leverage
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likes that because Trump loves leverage
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and he loves bullying. He's a big bully.
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and he loves bullying. He's a big bully.
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He likes to bully countries like Canada
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He likes to bully countries like Canada
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as we've seen in the in the past year.
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as we've seen in the in the past year.
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So what Carney said at Davos, he said
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So what Carney said at Davos, he said
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the old order is broken. It's ruptured
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the old order is broken. It's ruptured
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is what he said. And the there's a new
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is what he said. And the there's a new
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world order where the middle powers will
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world order where the middle powers will
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band together in various shifting
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band together in various shifting
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alliances depending on its trade or its
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alliances depending on its trade or its
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defense or its intellectual property or
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defense or its intellectual property or
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whatever it is and and they'll enter
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whatever it is and and they'll enter
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into an agreements rulesbased agreements
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into an agreements rulesbased agreements
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and that's how we we need to go forward.
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and that's how we we need to go forward.
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So, and he called that the new world
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So, and he called that the new world
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order. And I don't suppose it ever
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order. And I don't suppose it ever
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occurred to him when he was writing the
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occurred to him when he was writing the
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speech or speech writers were writing it
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speech or speech writers were writing it
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that the conspiracy theorist theorists
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that the conspiracy theorist theorists
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would grab hold of that and you know
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would grab hold of that and you know
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basically accuse Carney of of you know I
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basically accuse Carney of of you know I
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don't know being in enthralled to the
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don't know being in enthralled to the
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Masons or whoever it is that runs the
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Masons or whoever it is that runs the
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new world order. This is shadowy. Oh,
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new world order. This is shadowy. Oh,
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the Illuminati. I'm sorry. the
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the Illuminati. I'm sorry. the
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Illuminati uh you know who anyway you
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Illuminati uh you know who anyway you
know<00:10:54.480><c> this</c><00:10:54.720><c> this</c><00:10:55.040><c> stuff</c><00:10:55.279><c> is</c><00:10:55.600><c> it's</c><00:10:55.680><c> it's</c><00:10:56.320><c> utter</c>
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know this this stuff is it's it's utter
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know this this stuff is it's it's utter
nonsense<00:10:56.880><c> but</c><00:10:57.120><c> a</c><00:10:57.279><c> lot</c><00:10:57.360><c> of</c><00:10:57.600><c> people</c><00:10:57.920><c> believe</c><00:10:58.160><c> in</c>
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nonsense but a lot of people believe in
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nonsense but a lot of people believe in
it<00:10:58.800><c> and</c><00:10:59.040><c> here</c><00:10:59.279><c> we</c><00:10:59.519><c> have</c><00:10:59.760><c> somebody</c><00:11:00.160><c> who's</c>
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it and here we have somebody who's
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it and here we have somebody who's
purporting<00:11:01.600><c> to</c><00:11:02.000><c> be</c><00:11:02.800><c> involved</c><00:11:03.519><c> in</c><00:11:04.480><c> the</c>
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purporting to be involved in the
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purporting to be involved in the
he<00:11:06.399><c> says</c><00:11:07.279><c> not</c><00:11:07.600><c> negotiations</c><00:11:08.480><c> but</c><00:11:08.640><c> he</c><00:11:08.800><c> sure</c>
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he says not negotiations but he sure
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he says not negotiations but he sure
leaves<00:11:09.440><c> the</c><00:11:09.680><c> impression</c><00:11:10.160><c> with</c><00:11:10.480><c> everybody</c><00:11:11.279><c> who</c>
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leaves the impression with everybody who
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leaves the impression with everybody who
listens<00:11:11.920><c> to</c><00:11:12.079><c> him</c><00:11:12.240><c> that</c><00:11:12.480><c> he</c><00:11:12.720><c> is</c><00:11:13.040><c> negotiating</c>
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listens to him that he is negotiating
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listens to him that he is negotiating
some<00:11:14.480><c> kind</c><00:11:14.640><c> of</c><00:11:14.880><c> agreement</c><00:11:15.519><c> with</c><00:11:16.079><c> between</c>
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some kind of agreement with between
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some kind of agreement with between
Alberta<00:11:17.040><c> and</c><00:11:17.279><c> the</c><00:11:17.519><c> United</c><00:11:17.760><c> States</c><00:11:18.800><c> uh</c><00:11:19.040><c> and</c>
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Alberta and the United States uh and
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Alberta and the United States uh and
He's<00:11:19.760><c> doing</c><00:11:20.000><c> it</c><00:11:21.040><c> while</c><00:11:21.440><c> he</c><00:11:21.760><c> is</c><00:11:22.240><c> what</c><00:11:22.560><c> appears</c>
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He's doing it while he is what appears
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He's doing it while he is what appears
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to be a, you know, true blue conspiracy
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to be a, you know, true blue conspiracy
nut.<00:11:27.440><c> That's</c><00:11:27.760><c> I</c><00:11:28.079><c> think</c><00:11:28.240><c> we</c><00:11:28.480><c> we</c><00:11:28.800><c> should</c><00:11:28.959><c> be</c><00:11:29.040><c> a</c>
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nut. That's I think we we should be a
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nut. That's I think we we should be a
little<00:11:29.360><c> concerned</c><00:11:29.600><c> about</c><00:11:29.839><c> that.</c>
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little concerned about that.
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little concerned about that.
>> Well,<00:11:31.279><c> and</c><00:11:32.000><c> the</c><00:11:32.399><c> foreign</c><00:11:32.800><c> manipulation</c><00:11:33.440><c> is</c>
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>> Well, and the foreign manipulation is
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>> Well, and the foreign manipulation is
another<00:11:34.000><c> thing</c><00:11:34.079><c> that</c><00:11:34.320><c> you</c><00:11:34.480><c> you've</c><00:11:34.880><c> you've</c>
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another thing that you you've you've
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another thing that you you've you've
addressed<00:11:35.920><c> here</c><00:11:36.320><c> talking</c><00:11:36.640><c> about</c><00:11:36.880><c> EIE</c><00:11:37.279><c> as</c>
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addressed here talking about EIE as
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addressed here talking about EIE as
being<00:11:37.680><c> a</c><00:11:37.839><c> pawn</c><00:11:38.240><c> potentially</c><00:11:39.200><c> for</c><00:11:39.519><c> China.</c><00:11:40.480><c> Um,</c>
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being a pawn potentially for China. Um,
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being a pawn potentially for China. Um,
as<00:11:41.200><c> well</c><00:11:41.360><c> as,</c><00:11:41.760><c> you</c><00:11:41.920><c> know,</c><00:11:42.320><c> Canada</c><00:11:42.800><c> leveraging</c>
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as well as, you know, Canada leveraging
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as well as, you know, Canada leveraging
communist<00:11:43.920><c> China</c><00:11:44.320><c> against</c><00:11:44.880><c> Alberta.</c><00:11:45.760><c> Uh</c>
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communist China against Alberta. Uh
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communist China against Alberta. Uh
that's<00:11:46.320><c> one</c><00:11:46.480><c> of</c><00:11:46.560><c> the</c><00:11:46.720><c> things</c><00:11:46.880><c> that</c><00:11:47.440><c> um</c><00:11:47.920><c> that</c>
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that's one of the things that um that
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that's one of the things that um that
Wrath<00:11:48.560><c> said.</c><00:11:49.279><c> So</c><00:11:50.000><c> this</c><00:11:50.320><c> claim</c><00:11:51.040><c> of</c><00:11:51.839><c> domestic</c>
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Wrath said. So this claim of domestic
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Wrath said. So this claim of domestic
political<00:11:52.880><c> actors</c><00:11:53.360><c> being</c><00:11:53.839><c> controlled</c><00:11:54.320><c> by</c>
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political actors being controlled by
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political actors being controlled by
external<00:11:55.279><c> forces</c><00:11:56.560><c> um</c><00:11:56.800><c> that's</c><00:11:57.120><c> another</c><00:11:57.680><c> kind</c>
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external forces um that's another kind
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external forces um that's another kind
of<00:11:58.079><c> piece</c><00:11:58.560><c> in</c><00:11:58.880><c> these</c><00:11:59.600><c> uh</c><00:11:59.920><c> these</c><00:12:00.240><c> conspiracy</c>
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of piece in these uh these conspiracy
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of piece in these uh these conspiracy
theories.
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theories.
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theories.
>> Well,<00:12:02.640><c> it</c><00:12:02.720><c> it</c><00:12:03.120><c> certainly</c><00:12:03.519><c> is.</c><00:12:03.839><c> And</c><00:12:04.079><c> this</c><00:12:04.399><c> idea</c>
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>> Well, it it certainly is. And this idea
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>> Well, it it certainly is. And this idea
of<00:12:04.880><c> of</c><00:12:05.279><c> communist</c><00:12:05.839><c> China,</c><00:12:06.160><c> again,</c><00:12:06.480><c> that</c><00:12:06.720><c> comes</c>
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of of communist China, again, that comes
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of of communist China, again, that comes
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out of something uh it's been around for
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out of something uh it's been around for
a<00:12:09.200><c> while,</c><00:12:09.440><c> but</c><00:12:09.680><c> it</c><00:12:09.920><c> was</c><00:12:10.959><c> uh</c>
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a while, but it was uh
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a while, but it was uh
aggravated<00:12:14.079><c> uh</c><00:12:14.399><c> last</c><00:12:14.720><c> November</c><00:12:15.760><c> uh</c><00:12:16.079><c> when</c>
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aggravated uh last November uh when
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aggravated uh last November uh when
sorry,<00:12:17.760><c> but</c><00:12:18.320><c> Canada</c><00:12:19.360><c> and</c><00:12:19.600><c> China</c><00:12:19.839><c> entered</c><00:12:20.160><c> into</c>
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sorry, but Canada and China entered into
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sorry, but Canada and China entered into
a<00:12:20.560><c> strategic</c><00:12:20.959><c> plan.</c><00:12:21.360><c> I've</c><00:12:21.600><c> got</c><00:12:21.760><c> my</c><00:12:21.920><c> dates</c>
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a strategic plan. I've got my dates
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a strategic plan. I've got my dates
mixed<00:12:22.320><c> up.</c><00:12:22.480><c> I</c><00:12:22.560><c> think</c><00:12:22.720><c> it</c><00:12:22.800><c> was</c><00:12:22.959><c> it</c><00:12:23.040><c> was</c><00:12:23.200><c> in</c>
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mixed up. I think it was it was in
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mixed up. I think it was it was in
January,<00:12:24.160><c> not</c><00:12:24.399><c> in</c><00:12:24.880><c> November.</c><00:12:25.440><c> So,</c><00:12:25.680><c> sorry.</c><00:12:26.320><c> Uh</c>
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January, not in November. So, sorry. Uh
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January, not in November. So, sorry. Uh
so<00:12:26.880><c> they</c><00:12:27.120><c> entered</c><00:12:27.360><c> into</c><00:12:27.600><c> this</c><00:12:27.839><c> strategic</c><00:12:28.320><c> plan</c>
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so they entered into this strategic plan
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so they entered into this strategic plan
and<00:12:29.200><c> right</c><00:12:29.440><c> away</c><00:12:29.920><c> it</c><00:12:30.160><c> was</c><00:12:30.320><c> like</c><00:12:30.800><c> even</c><00:12:31.120><c> Donald</c>
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and right away it was like even Donald
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and right away it was like even Donald
Trump<00:12:32.399><c> his</c><00:12:32.720><c> secret</c><00:12:33.120><c> his</c><00:12:33.360><c> treasury</c><00:12:33.760><c> secretary</c>
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Trump his secret his treasury secretary
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Trump his secret his treasury secretary
Scott<00:12:34.959><c> Bant</c><00:12:36.320><c> uh</c><00:12:37.519><c> Steven</c><00:12:37.839><c> Miller</c><00:12:38.399><c> Steve</c><00:12:38.639><c> Bannon</c>
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Scott Bant uh Steven Miller Steve Bannon
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Scott Bant uh Steven Miller Steve Bannon
I<00:12:39.360><c> mean</c><00:12:39.600><c> all</c><00:12:39.760><c> of</c><00:12:39.920><c> them</c><00:12:40.079><c> just</c><00:12:40.399><c> lit</c><00:12:40.639><c> their</c><00:12:40.800><c> hair</c>
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I mean all of them just lit their hair
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I mean all of them just lit their hair
on<00:12:41.200><c> fire</c><00:12:41.360><c> and</c><00:12:41.600><c> said</c><00:12:41.760><c> oh</c><00:12:41.920><c> my</c><00:12:42.000><c> god</c><00:12:42.240><c> they've</c><00:12:42.480><c> got</c><00:12:42.560><c> a</c>
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on fire and said oh my god they've got a
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on fire and said oh my god they've got a
trade<00:12:42.880><c> agreement</c><00:12:43.519><c> with</c><00:12:43.839><c> China</c><00:12:44.720><c> not</c><00:12:44.959><c> at</c><00:12:45.200><c> all</c>
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trade agreement with China not at all
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trade agreement with China not at all
and<00:12:45.600><c> we've</c><00:12:45.839><c> had</c><00:12:45.920><c> a</c><00:12:46.079><c> couple</c><00:12:46.240><c> of</c><00:12:46.399><c> experts</c><00:12:46.800><c> on</c>
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and we've had a couple of experts on
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and we've had a couple of experts on
here<00:12:47.839><c> uh</c><00:12:48.160><c> like</c><00:12:48.639><c> uh</c><00:12:49.200><c> uh</c>
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here uh like uh uh
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here uh like uh uh
Jeffrey<00:12:51.519><c> uh</c><00:12:52.160><c> Truffler</c><00:12:53.120><c> University</c><00:12:53.519><c> of</c>
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Jeffrey uh Truffler University of
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Jeffrey uh Truffler University of
Toronto<00:12:54.560><c> trade</c><00:12:55.279><c> economist</c><00:12:56.000><c> who</c><00:12:56.240><c> just</c><00:12:56.399><c> said</c>
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Toronto trade economist who just said
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Toronto trade economist who just said
look<00:12:56.959><c> settle</c><00:12:57.279><c> down.</c><00:12:57.920><c> This</c><00:12:58.240><c> what</c><00:12:58.560><c> this</c><00:12:58.800><c> is</c><00:12:59.120><c> is</c>
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look settle down. This what this is is
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look settle down. This what this is is
an<00:12:59.600><c> agreement</c><00:13:00.000><c> to</c><00:13:00.240><c> talk.</c><00:13:01.040><c> This</c><00:13:01.200><c> is</c><00:13:01.360><c> not</c><00:13:01.519><c> a</c><00:13:01.680><c> free</c>
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an agreement to talk. This is not a free
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an agreement to talk. This is not a free
trade<00:13:02.160><c> agreement</c><00:13:02.800><c> is</c><00:13:03.040><c> a</c><00:13:03.279><c> very</c><00:13:03.519><c> structured</c>
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trade agreement is a very structured
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trade agreement is a very structured
document.<00:13:04.399><c> It</c><00:13:04.639><c> has</c><00:13:05.040><c> you</c><00:13:05.200><c> know</c><00:13:05.360><c> duties</c>
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document. It has you know duties
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document. It has you know duties
schedules<00:13:06.480><c> of</c><00:13:06.639><c> duties</c><00:13:07.440><c> and</c><00:13:07.760><c> tariffs</c><00:13:08.240><c> and</c><00:13:08.399><c> and</c>
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schedules of duties and tariffs and and
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schedules of duties and tariffs and and
so<00:13:09.040><c> on</c><00:13:09.200><c> and</c><00:13:09.440><c> it</c><00:13:09.600><c> has</c><00:13:09.760><c> dispute</c><00:13:10.240><c> me</c><00:13:10.800><c> resolution</c>
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so on and it has dispute me resolution
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so on and it has dispute me resolution
mechanisms<00:13:12.160><c> on</c><00:13:12.320><c> and</c><00:13:12.480><c> on</c><00:13:12.560><c> and</c><00:13:12.720><c> on.</c><00:13:13.040><c> That's</c><00:13:13.279><c> not</c>
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mechanisms on and on and on. That's not
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mechanisms on and on and on. That's not
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what this is. The strategic plan with
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what this is. The strategic plan with
China<00:13:16.160><c> sets</c><00:13:16.480><c> up</c><00:13:17.120><c> uh</c><00:13:17.360><c> institutional</c>
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China sets up uh institutional
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China sets up uh institutional
arrangements<00:13:18.880><c> where</c><00:13:19.200><c> ministers</c><00:13:19.760><c> can</c><00:13:20.000><c> talk</c>
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arrangements where ministers can talk
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arrangements where ministers can talk
where<00:13:20.720><c> bureaucrats</c><00:13:21.440><c> can</c><00:13:21.680><c> talk</c><00:13:22.240><c> where</c><00:13:22.880><c> the</c><00:13:23.600><c> uh</c>
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where bureaucrats can talk where the uh
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where bureaucrats can talk where the uh
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because we do have a fair amount of
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because we do have a fair amount of
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trade with with China where we can
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trade with with China where we can
resolve<00:13:27.760><c> some</c><00:13:27.920><c> of</c><00:13:28.079><c> those</c><00:13:28.240><c> trades</c><00:13:28.800><c> or</c><00:13:29.040><c> those</c>
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resolve some of those trades or those
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resolve some of those trades or those
disputes<00:13:30.079><c> or</c><00:13:30.240><c> at</c><00:13:30.240><c> least</c><00:13:30.560><c> talk</c><00:13:30.800><c> about</c><00:13:30.959><c> them.</c><00:13:31.760><c> So</c>
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disputes or at least talk about them. So
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disputes or at least talk about them. So
that's<00:13:32.320><c> all</c><00:13:32.639><c> this</c><00:13:32.800><c> is.</c><00:13:33.120><c> This</c><00:13:33.360><c> is</c><00:13:33.839><c> this</c><00:13:34.079><c> is</c><00:13:34.240><c> very</c>
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that's all this is. This is this is very
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that's all this is. This is this is very
a<00:13:34.800><c> very</c><00:13:35.040><c> conservative</c><00:13:35.680><c> document,</c><00:13:36.079><c> a</c><00:13:36.240><c> very</c>
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a very conservative document, a very
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a very conservative document, a very
conservative<00:13:36.880><c> approach.</c><00:13:37.440><c> It</c><00:13:37.680><c> was</c><00:13:37.920><c> not</c><00:13:38.720><c> what</c>
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conservative approach. It was not what
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conservative approach. It was not what
Jeff<00:13:39.440><c> Wrath</c><00:13:39.760><c> and</c><00:13:40.000><c> others</c><00:13:40.560><c> have</c><00:13:40.800><c> been</c><00:13:40.959><c> claiming</c>
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Jeff Wrath and others have been claiming
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Jeff Wrath and others have been claiming
it<00:13:41.519><c> is.</c><00:13:42.000><c> And</c><00:13:42.160><c> this</c><00:13:42.320><c> is</c><00:13:42.480><c> the</c><00:13:42.720><c> problem.</c><00:13:43.040><c> I</c><00:13:43.360><c> mean,</c>
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it is. And this is the problem. I mean,
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it is. And this is the problem. I mean,
you<00:13:44.000><c> know,</c><00:13:44.160><c> these</c><00:13:44.399><c> guys</c><00:13:44.720><c> go</c><00:13:44.880><c> on,</c><00:13:45.120><c> they</c><00:13:45.440><c> go</c><00:13:45.519><c> on</c>
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you know, these guys go on, they go on
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you know, these guys go on, they go on
TV,<00:13:46.399><c> they</c><00:13:46.560><c> go</c><00:13:46.720><c> on</c><00:13:46.880><c> social</c><00:13:47.200><c> media,</c><00:13:47.519><c> they</c><00:13:47.680><c> go</c><00:13:47.839><c> on,</c>
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TV, they go on social media, they go on,
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TV, they go on social media, they go on,
you<00:13:48.320><c> know,</c><00:13:48.480><c> these</c><00:13:49.200><c> make</c><00:13:49.519><c> videos</c><00:13:49.920><c> and</c><00:13:50.079><c> so</c><00:13:50.320><c> on</c>
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you know, these make videos and so on
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you know, these make videos and so on
and<00:13:51.360><c> and</c><00:13:52.160><c> their</c><00:13:53.120><c> explanation</c><00:13:53.920><c> of</c><00:13:54.160><c> what's</c>
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and and their explanation of what's
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and and their explanation of what's
going<00:13:54.800><c> on</c><00:13:55.600><c> is</c><00:13:55.839><c> has</c><00:13:56.160><c> is</c><00:13:56.240><c> is</c><00:13:57.360><c> not</c><00:13:57.600><c> grounded</c><00:13:58.079><c> in</c>
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going on is has is is not grounded in
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going on is has is is not grounded in
reality.<00:13:58.959><c> Never</c><00:13:59.199><c> mind</c><00:13:59.360><c> grounded</c><00:13:59.760><c> in</c>
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reality. Never mind grounded in
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reality. Never mind grounded in
evidence.<00:14:00.720><c> It's</c><00:14:00.959><c> not</c><00:14:01.120><c> grounded</c><00:14:01.519><c> in</c><00:14:01.760><c> reality.</c>
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evidence. It's not grounded in reality.
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evidence. It's not grounded in reality.
You<00:14:02.880><c> know,</c><00:14:03.360><c> they</c><00:14:03.680><c> they</c><00:14:04.160><c> are</c><00:14:04.480><c> as</c><00:14:04.880><c> deep</c><00:14:05.279><c> as</c><00:14:05.760><c> a</c>
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You know, they they are as deep as a
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You know, they they are as deep as a
subreddit.<00:14:08.240><c> Uh,</c>
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subreddit. Uh,
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subreddit. Uh,
do<00:14:10.959><c> you</c><00:14:11.120><c> want</c><00:14:11.199><c> to</c><00:14:11.360><c> explain</c><00:14:11.600><c> what</c><00:14:11.760><c> a</c><00:14:11.920><c> subreddit</c>
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do you want to explain what a subreddit
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do you want to explain what a subreddit
is<00:14:12.639><c> for</c><00:14:13.120><c> some</c><00:14:13.360><c> of</c><00:14:13.440><c> our</c><00:14:13.680><c> folks</c><00:14:13.920><c> who</c><00:14:14.240><c> who</c><00:14:14.560><c> may</c><00:14:14.720><c> not</c>
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is for some of our folks who who may not
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is for some of our folks who who may not
be<00:14:15.120><c> familiar</c><00:14:15.360><c> with</c><00:14:15.519><c> it?</c>
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be familiar with it?
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be familiar with it?
>> Well,<00:14:17.440><c> I</c><00:14:17.680><c> mean,</c><00:14:17.760><c> it's</c><00:14:18.000><c> just</c><00:14:18.160><c> a</c><00:14:18.320><c> Reddit.</c><00:14:19.120><c> Reddit</c>
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>> Well, I mean, it's just a Reddit. Reddit
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>> Well, I mean, it's just a Reddit. Reddit
is<00:14:19.680><c> another</c><00:14:20.399><c> social</c><00:14:20.720><c> media</c><00:14:21.040><c> platform,</c><00:14:21.600><c> and</c><00:14:21.920><c> a</c>
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is another social media platform, and a
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is another social media platform, and a
subreddit<00:14:22.959><c> is</c><00:14:23.199><c> some</c><00:14:24.079><c> uh,</c><00:14:24.320><c> you</c><00:14:24.480><c> know,</c><00:14:24.720><c> a</c><00:14:25.279><c> a</c>
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subreddit is some uh, you know, a a
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subreddit is some uh, you know, a a
stream<00:14:26.720><c> of</c><00:14:26.880><c> thought</c><00:14:27.199><c> that</c><00:14:27.519><c> comes</c><00:14:27.760><c> off</c><00:14:27.920><c> of</c><00:14:28.160><c> a</c><00:14:28.399><c> a</c>
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stream of thought that comes off of a a
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stream of thought that comes off of a a
massive<00:14:29.440><c> kind</c><00:14:29.680><c> of</c><00:14:30.160><c> channel</c><00:14:30.720><c> on</c><00:14:31.040><c> Reddit.</c><00:14:31.839><c> I</c>
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massive kind of channel on Reddit. I
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massive kind of channel on Reddit. I
don't<00:14:32.160><c> know</c><00:14:32.160><c> if</c><00:14:32.320><c> I'm</c><00:14:32.560><c> explaining</c><00:14:32.880><c> that</c><00:14:33.040><c> very</c>
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don't know if I'm explaining that very
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don't know if I'm explaining that very
well,<00:14:33.600><c> but</c><00:14:34.480><c> um</c>
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well, but um
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well, but um
>> I<00:14:35.760><c> guess</c><00:14:35.839><c> the</c><00:14:36.079><c> point</c><00:14:36.240><c> the</c><00:14:36.480><c> point</c><00:14:36.639><c> here</c><00:14:36.880><c> the</c>
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>> I guess the point the point here the
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>> I guess the point the point here the
point<00:14:37.279><c> here</c><00:14:37.440><c> is</c><00:14:37.839><c> it's</c><00:14:38.079><c> like</c><00:14:38.240><c> a</c><00:14:38.399><c> a</c><00:14:38.560><c> chat</c><00:14:38.880><c> room</c>
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point here is it's like a a chat room
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point here is it's like a a chat room
and<00:14:39.680><c> and</c><00:14:40.000><c> so</c><00:14:40.240><c> you</c><00:14:40.480><c> and</c><00:14:40.720><c> so</c><00:14:40.880><c> you</c><00:14:41.120><c> get</c><00:14:41.199><c> all</c><00:14:41.360><c> these</c>
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and and so you and so you get all these
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and and so you and so you get all these
conspiracy<00:14:42.160><c> theory</c><00:14:42.560><c> chat</c><00:14:42.800><c> rooms</c><00:14:43.120><c> on</c><00:14:43.600><c> social</c>
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conspiracy theory chat rooms on social
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conspiracy theory chat rooms on social
media<00:14:44.240><c> platforms,</c><00:14:45.120><c> you</c><00:14:45.279><c> know,</c><00:14:45.600><c> uh</c><00:14:45.680><c> like</c>
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media platforms, you know, uh like
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media platforms, you know, uh like
social<00:14:46.720><c> Donald</c><00:14:47.120><c> Trump's</c><00:14:48.000><c> uh</c>
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social Donald Trump's uh
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social Donald Trump's uh
truth<00:14:50.480><c> social</c><00:14:51.519><c> uh</c><00:14:51.680><c> and</c><00:14:52.880><c> and</c><00:14:53.040><c> and</c><00:14:53.600><c> they</c><00:14:53.760><c> go</c><00:14:53.920><c> down</c>
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truth social uh and and and they go down
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truth social uh and and and they go down
these<00:14:54.320><c> rabbit</c><00:14:54.639><c> holes</c><00:14:54.880><c> and</c><00:14:55.120><c> next</c><00:14:55.279><c> thing</c><00:14:55.440><c> you</c>
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these rabbit holes and next thing you
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these rabbit holes and next thing you
know<00:14:55.760><c> they</c><00:14:56.160><c> you</c><00:14:56.240><c> know</c><00:14:56.399><c> they're</c><00:14:56.639><c> they're</c><00:14:57.040><c> all</c>
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know they you know they're they're all
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know they you know they're they're all
sorts<00:14:57.519><c> of</c><00:14:57.839><c> conspiracies.</c><00:14:58.959><c> That's</c><00:14:59.279><c> what</c><00:14:59.519><c> his</c>
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sorts of conspiracies. That's what his
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sorts of conspiracies. That's what his
language<00:15:00.399><c> is</c><00:15:00.639><c> grounded</c><00:15:01.040><c> in.</c><00:15:01.600><c> And</c><00:15:02.399><c> this</c><00:15:02.720><c> this</c>
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language is grounded in. And this this
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language is grounded in. And this this
may<00:15:03.360><c> sound</c><00:15:03.680><c> innocent,</c><00:15:04.639><c> but</c><00:15:04.959><c> we've</c><00:15:05.360><c> seen</c>
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may sound innocent, but we've seen
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may sound innocent, but we've seen
what's<00:15:06.000><c> happened</c><00:15:06.240><c> down</c><00:15:06.480><c> in</c><00:15:06.639><c> the</c><00:15:06.800><c> states.</c>
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what's happened down in the states.
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what's happened down in the states.
We're<00:15:07.360><c> seeing</c><00:15:07.600><c> what's</c><00:15:07.920><c> happening</c><00:15:08.160><c> in</c><00:15:08.399><c> in</c>
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We're seeing what's happening in in
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We're seeing what's happening in in
parts<00:15:09.040><c> of</c><00:15:09.199><c> Alberta.</c><00:15:10.160><c> And</c><00:15:10.320><c> the</c><00:15:10.560><c> problem</c><00:15:10.880><c> is</c><00:15:11.199><c> it</c>
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parts of Alberta. And the problem is it
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parts of Alberta. And the problem is it
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does things like it delegitimizes ideas.
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does things like it delegitimizes ideas.
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It delegitimizes government. It
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It delegitimizes government. It
delegitimizes<00:15:16.959><c> things</c><00:15:17.199><c> like</c><00:15:17.440><c> social</c>
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delegitimizes things like social
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delegitimizes things like social
contracts<00:15:18.320><c> around</c><00:15:18.720><c> public</c><00:15:19.040><c> health</c><00:15:19.519><c> like</c><00:15:19.760><c> we</c>
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contracts around public health like we
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contracts around public health like we
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saw in the in the CO 19 pandemic. So
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saw in the in the CO 19 pandemic. So
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this is the fact that he uses this
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this is the fact that he uses this
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language and we kind of let him get away
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language and we kind of let him get away
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with it, you know, because the the CTV
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with it, you know, because the the CTV
reporter,<00:15:31.040><c> I</c><00:15:31.199><c> mean,</c><00:15:31.279><c> it</c><00:15:31.519><c> wasn't</c><00:15:31.680><c> that</c><00:15:31.839><c> kind</c><00:15:32.000><c> of</c>
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reporter, I mean, it wasn't that kind of
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reporter, I mean, it wasn't that kind of
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an interview. So, but you know, she
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an interview. So, but you know, she
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didn't challenge she she didn't
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didn't challenge she she didn't
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challenge him. And so, you know, there
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challenge him. And so, you know, there
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was uh five minutes on on on the CTV
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was uh five minutes on on on the CTV
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YouTube channel where, you know, Jeff
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YouTube channel where, you know, Jeff
Wrath<00:15:45.199><c> just</c><00:15:45.360><c> got</c><00:15:45.600><c> to</c><00:15:45.680><c> rattle</c><00:15:46.000><c> on</c><00:15:46.240><c> about,</c><00:15:46.639><c> you</c>
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Wrath just got to rattle on about, you
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Wrath just got to rattle on about, you
know,<00:15:46.959><c> communist</c><00:15:47.440><c> Ottawa,</c><00:15:47.920><c> communist</c>
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know, communist Ottawa, communist
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know, communist Ottawa, communist
Canada,<00:15:48.880><c> and</c><00:15:49.120><c> nobody</c><00:15:49.600><c> challenges</c><00:15:50.079><c> him.</c><00:15:50.800><c> And</c>
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Canada, and nobody challenges him. And
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Canada, and nobody challenges him. And
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so that sort of stuff then can has the
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so that sort of stuff then can has the
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potential to get traction and have an
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potential to get traction and have an
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influence on our, you know, the way
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influence on our, you know, the way
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people talk about politics. It's one of
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people talk about politics. It's one of
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the reasons I wrote the essay and one of
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the reasons I wrote the essay and one of
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the reasons we're having having this
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the reasons we're having having this
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conversation is we need to push back
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conversation is we need to push back
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against that. We need to recognize what
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against that. We need to recognize what
Jeff<00:16:08.000><c> Wrath</c><00:16:08.480><c> and</c><00:16:08.959><c> others</c><00:16:09.360><c> of</c><00:16:09.680><c> his</c><00:16:10.240><c> ilk</c><00:16:10.800><c> are</c>
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Jeff Wrath and others of his ilk are
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Jeff Wrath and others of his ilk are
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doing. uh which is uh you know they're
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doing. uh which is uh you know they're
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basically trying to delegitimize the
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basically trying to delegitimize the
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status quo and then they want to bring
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status quo and then they want to bring
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in change in this case to pry Alberta
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in change in this case to pry Alberta
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away from Canada and join it up with the
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away from Canada and join it up with the
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United States as the 51st state.
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United States as the 51st state.
>> Well,<00:16:28.720><c> and</c><00:16:28.959><c> this</c><00:16:29.120><c> is</c><00:16:29.199><c> an</c><00:16:29.440><c> important</c><00:16:29.759><c> point</c><00:16:30.160><c> too</c>
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>> Well, and this is an important point too
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>> Well, and this is an important point too
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is this, you know, this wedge that
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is this, you know, this wedge that
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they're using between Alberta and Canada
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they're using between Alberta and Canada
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and that Canada is the oppressor. um and
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and that Canada is the oppressor. um and
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you know kind of giving the US
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you know kind of giving the US
Washington<00:16:44.639><c> and</c><00:16:44.959><c> Trump</c><00:16:45.920><c> are</c><00:16:46.240><c> going</c><00:16:46.320><c> to</c><00:16:46.399><c> be</c><00:16:46.560><c> the</c>
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Washington and Trump are going to be the
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Washington and Trump are going to be the
the<00:16:47.759><c> saviors</c><00:16:48.399><c> against</c><00:16:48.800><c> this</c><00:16:49.120><c> Canadian</c>
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the saviors against this Canadian
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the saviors against this Canadian
oppression.<00:16:50.480><c> And</c><00:16:50.720><c> so</c><00:16:51.199><c> to</c><00:16:51.360><c> me</c><00:16:51.519><c> that</c><00:16:51.759><c> seems</c><00:16:52.079><c> a</c>
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oppression. And so to me that seems a
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oppression. And so to me that seems a
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bit at odds since it would be another
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bit at odds since it would be another
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kind of big federal government coming in
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kind of big federal government coming in
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to to save them away from this communist
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to to save them away from this communist
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Canadian government that they're you
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Canadian government that they're you
know<00:17:04.319><c> under</c><00:17:04.720><c> right</c><00:17:04.959><c> now.</c><00:17:05.360><c> So,</c><00:17:05.679><c> ho</c><00:17:05.919><c> how</c><00:17:06.160><c> does</c>
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know under right now. So, ho how does
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know under right now. So, ho how does
that<00:17:06.640><c> line</c><00:17:06.959><c> up</c><00:17:07.120><c> into</c><00:17:07.439><c> this</c><00:17:07.679><c> rhetoric?</c>
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that line up into this rhetoric?
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that line up into this rhetoric?
>> Well,<00:17:09.280><c> that's</c><00:17:09.520><c> kind</c><00:17:09.679><c> of</c><00:17:09.839><c> interesting</c>
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>> Well, that's kind of interesting
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>> Well, that's kind of interesting
because,<00:17:10.799><c> you</c><00:17:10.959><c> know,</c><00:17:11.280><c> a</c><00:17:11.520><c> number</c><00:17:11.679><c> of</c><00:17:11.839><c> observers</c>
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because, you know, a number of observers
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because, you know, a number of observers
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have have uh have mentioned, have you
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have have uh have mentioned, have you
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seen what's happened with like Costa
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seen what's happened with like Costa
Rica?<00:17:18.079><c> You</c><00:17:18.240><c> know,</c><00:17:18.319><c> the</c><00:17:18.880><c> you</c><00:17:19.039><c> know,</c><00:17:19.120><c> the</c>
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Rica? You know, the you know, the
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Rica? You know, the you know, the
territories<00:17:20.400><c> that</c><00:17:20.720><c> the</c><00:17:20.880><c> United</c><00:17:21.199><c> States</c><00:17:21.439><c> have</c>
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territories that the United States have
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territories that the United States have
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that those are not full participants
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that those are not full participants
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full statehood at all. So, is there any
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full statehood at all. So, is there any
guarantee<00:17:26.959><c> that</c><00:17:27.120><c> Alberta</c><00:17:27.600><c> would</c><00:17:27.760><c> get</c><00:17:27.919><c> full</c>
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guarantee that Alberta would get full
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guarantee that Alberta would get full
statehood,<00:17:28.960><c> you</c><00:17:29.120><c> know,</c><00:17:29.280><c> seats</c><00:17:29.600><c> in</c><00:17:29.760><c> the</c><00:17:29.919><c> in</c><00:17:30.160><c> the</c>
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statehood, you know, seats in the in the
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statehood, you know, seats in the in the
Senate,<00:17:31.200><c> etc.?</c><00:17:32.000><c> Well,</c><00:17:32.559><c> absolutely</c><00:17:33.120><c> not.</c><00:17:33.760><c> And</c>
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Senate, etc.? Well, absolutely not. And
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Senate, etc.? Well, absolutely not. And
one<00:17:34.640><c> of</c><00:17:34.720><c> the</c><00:17:34.880><c> things</c><00:17:34.960><c> that</c><00:17:35.200><c> Wrath</c><00:17:35.679><c> does</c><00:17:35.919><c> is</c><00:17:36.160><c> he</c>
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one of the things that Wrath does is he
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one of the things that Wrath does is he
uses<00:17:36.720><c> a</c><00:17:36.960><c> phrase</c><00:17:37.200><c> I</c><00:17:37.520><c> hear</c><00:17:37.679><c> all</c><00:17:37.919><c> the</c><00:17:38.080><c> time</c><00:17:38.880><c> uh</c>
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uses a phrase I hear all the time uh
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uses a phrase I hear all the time uh
from<00:17:39.360><c> the</c><00:17:39.600><c> MAGA</c><00:17:40.000><c> crowd</c><00:17:40.240><c> in</c><00:17:40.480><c> the</c><00:17:40.559><c> United</c><00:17:40.799><c> States</c>
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from the MAGA crowd in the United States
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from the MAGA crowd in the United States
and<00:17:41.200><c> that</c><00:17:41.440><c> is</c><00:17:41.679><c> Trump</c><00:17:42.160><c> derangement</c><00:17:43.039><c> syndrome.</c>
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and that is Trump derangement syndrome.
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and that is Trump derangement syndrome.
So<00:17:44.160><c> like</c><00:17:44.320><c> if</c><00:17:44.640><c> you</c><00:17:45.039><c> criticize</c><00:17:45.919><c> Trump</c><00:17:46.240><c> for</c><00:17:46.480><c> using</c>
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So like if you criticize Trump for using
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So like if you criticize Trump for using
extreme<00:17:47.200><c> language</c><00:17:47.760><c> or</c><00:17:48.080><c> doing</c><00:17:48.320><c> things</c><00:17:48.559><c> like</c>
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extreme language or doing things like
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extreme language or doing things like
you<00:17:48.960><c> know</c><00:17:49.520><c> deposing</c><00:17:50.480><c> Venezuela's</c><00:17:51.360><c> president</c>
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you know deposing Venezuela's president
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you know deposing Venezuela's president
that<00:17:52.320><c> sort</c><00:17:52.480><c> of</c><00:17:52.640><c> thing</c><00:17:53.280><c> then</c><00:17:53.919><c> uh</c><00:17:54.160><c> if</c><00:17:54.400><c> you</c>
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that sort of thing then uh if you
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that sort of thing then uh if you
criticize<00:17:55.039><c> it</c><00:17:55.600><c> you</c><00:17:55.760><c> don't</c><00:17:55.919><c> agree</c><00:17:56.160><c> with</c><00:17:56.320><c> it</c><00:17:56.880><c> you</c>
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criticize it you don't agree with it you
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criticize it you don't agree with it you
are<00:17:57.360><c> now</c><00:17:57.840><c> you</c><00:17:58.080><c> have</c><00:17:58.240><c> Trump</c><00:17:58.640><c> derangement</c>
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are now you have Trump derangement
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are now you have Trump derangement
syndrome.<00:17:59.919><c> and</c><00:18:00.160><c> he</c><00:18:00.320><c> uses</c><00:18:00.640><c> that</c><00:18:00.880><c> in</c><00:18:01.120><c> his</c>
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syndrome. and he uses that in his
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syndrome. and he uses that in his
interviews.<00:18:02.000><c> You</c><00:18:02.240><c> he</c><00:18:02.400><c> talks</c><00:18:02.640><c> about</c><00:18:02.799><c> that</c><00:18:03.679><c> uh</c>
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interviews. You he talks about that uh
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interviews. You he talks about that uh
that<00:18:04.000><c> that</c><00:18:04.400><c> people</c><00:18:04.559><c> who</c><00:18:04.799><c> oppose</c><00:18:05.200><c> Alberta</c>
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that that people who oppose Alberta
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that that people who oppose Alberta
separatism<00:18:06.320><c> or</c><00:18:06.480><c> have</c><00:18:06.640><c> Trump</c><00:18:07.039><c> derangement</c>
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separatism or have Trump derangement
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separatism or have Trump derangement
syndrome.<00:18:08.240><c> So</c><00:18:08.480><c> the</c><00:18:08.640><c> the</c><00:18:09.039><c> bottom</c><00:18:09.360><c> line</c><00:18:09.520><c> here,</c>
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syndrome. So the the bottom line here,
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syndrome. So the the bottom line here,
MC,<00:18:10.480><c> and</c><00:18:10.640><c> we</c><00:18:10.799><c> could</c><00:18:10.960><c> we</c><00:18:11.200><c> could</c><00:18:11.280><c> go</c><00:18:11.440><c> on</c><00:18:11.600><c> and</c><00:18:11.760><c> on</c>
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MC, and we could we could go on and on
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MC, and we could we could go on and on
and<00:18:12.160><c> get</c><00:18:12.320><c> it</c><00:18:12.400><c> really</c><00:18:12.720><c> into</c><00:18:13.039><c> the</c><00:18:13.200><c> nitty-gritty,</c>
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and get it really into the nitty-gritty,
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and get it really into the nitty-gritty,
but<00:18:13.919><c> we</c><00:18:14.080><c> don't</c><00:18:14.160><c> have</c><00:18:14.320><c> to</c><00:18:14.880><c> because</c><00:18:15.200><c> the</c><00:18:15.440><c> bottom</c>
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but we don't have to because the bottom
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but we don't have to because the bottom
line<00:18:15.919><c> here</c><00:18:16.160><c> is</c><00:18:16.880><c> Jeff</c><00:18:17.760><c> Wrath</c><00:18:18.559><c> is</c><00:18:18.960><c> by</c><00:18:19.200><c> all</c>
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line here is Jeff Wrath is by all
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line here is Jeff Wrath is by all
accounts,<00:18:19.840><c> by</c><00:18:20.080><c> his</c><00:18:20.320><c> own</c><00:18:20.559><c> words,</c><00:18:21.280><c> would</c><00:18:21.600><c> appear</c>
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accounts, by his own words, would appear
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accounts, by his own words, would appear
to<00:18:22.160><c> be</c><00:18:22.880><c> a</c>
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to be a
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to be a
outofouch<00:18:25.840><c> uh</c><00:18:26.080><c> conspiracy</c><00:18:26.559><c> theorist.</c><00:18:27.840><c> And</c>
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outofouch uh conspiracy theorist. And
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outofouch uh conspiracy theorist. And
this<00:18:28.240><c> is</c><00:18:28.400><c> the</c><00:18:28.559><c> person</c><00:18:28.799><c> who</c><00:18:29.120><c> is</c><00:18:29.360><c> trying</c><00:18:29.520><c> to</c><00:18:29.679><c> go</c>
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this is the person who is trying to go
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this is the person who is trying to go
down<00:18:30.000><c> to</c><00:18:30.160><c> to</c><00:18:30.960><c> Washington</c><00:18:31.679><c> and</c><00:18:31.840><c> and</c><00:18:32.240><c> lead</c><00:18:32.480><c> to</c>
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down to to Washington and and lead to
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down to to Washington and and lead to
the<00:18:32.720><c> breakup</c><00:18:33.039><c> of</c><00:18:33.280><c> Canada.</c><00:18:33.760><c> We</c><00:18:33.919><c> need</c><00:18:34.080><c> to</c><00:18:34.160><c> push</c>
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the breakup of Canada. We need to push
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the breakup of Canada. We need to push
back<00:18:34.559><c> on</c><00:18:34.720><c> that.</c><00:18:35.520><c> And</c><00:18:35.760><c> this</c><00:18:35.919><c> is,</c><00:18:36.160><c> you</c><00:18:36.320><c> know,</c>
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back on that. And this is, you know,
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back on that. And this is, you know,
we'll<00:18:36.799><c> get</c><00:18:36.960><c> some</c><00:18:37.120><c> criticism.</c><00:18:37.679><c> Some</c><00:18:37.840><c> of</c><00:18:37.919><c> our</c>
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we'll get some criticism. Some of our
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we'll get some criticism. Some of our
audience<00:18:38.400><c> will</c><00:18:38.559><c> say,</c><00:18:38.640><c> "Well,</c><00:18:38.799><c> why</c><00:18:38.960><c> do</c><00:18:39.039><c> you</c>
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audience will say, "Well, why do you
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audience will say, "Well, why do you
even<00:18:39.280><c> bother</c><00:18:39.600><c> talking</c><00:18:39.840><c> about</c><00:18:40.000><c> them?</c><00:18:40.320><c> All</c>
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even bother talking about them? All
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even bother talking about them? All
you're<00:18:40.640><c> doing</c><00:18:40.799><c> is</c><00:18:40.960><c> drawing</c><00:18:41.280><c> attention</c><00:18:41.600><c> to</c>
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you're doing is drawing attention to
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you're doing is drawing attention to
them."<00:18:42.320><c> What</c><00:18:42.480><c> we've</c><00:18:42.799><c> seen,</c><00:18:43.039><c> if</c><00:18:43.280><c> we've</c><00:18:43.600><c> learned</c>
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them." What we've seen, if we've learned
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them." What we've seen, if we've learned
anything<00:18:44.400><c> since</c><00:18:44.720><c> 2020,</c><00:18:45.760><c> is</c><00:18:46.000><c> that</c><00:18:46.559><c> when</c><00:18:46.880><c> you</c>
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anything since 2020, is that when you
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anything since 2020, is that when you
don't<00:18:47.440><c> push</c><00:18:47.760><c> back,</c><00:18:48.640><c> things</c><00:18:49.039><c> tend</c><00:18:49.440><c> to</c><00:18:50.480><c> uh</c><00:18:51.360><c> uh</c>
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don't push back, things tend to uh uh
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don't push back, things tend to uh uh
get<00:18:51.840><c> traction</c><00:18:52.720><c> in</c><00:18:53.039><c> the</c><00:18:53.200><c> political</c><00:18:53.600><c> world</c><00:18:54.160><c> that</c>
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get traction in the political world that
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get traction in the political world that
you<00:18:54.720><c> wish</c><00:18:54.880><c> you</c><00:18:55.120><c> could</c><00:18:55.280><c> go</c><00:18:55.440><c> back</c><00:18:55.679><c> and</c><00:18:55.919><c> do</c><00:18:56.080><c> it</c>
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you wish you could go back and do it
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you wish you could go back and do it
again<00:18:56.720><c> because</c><00:18:57.120><c> so</c><00:18:57.440><c> I</c><00:18:58.240><c> lesson</c><00:18:58.640><c> one</c><00:18:58.799><c> of</c><00:18:58.799><c> the</c>
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again because so I lesson one of the
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again because so I lesson one of the
lessons<00:18:59.200><c> I</c><00:18:59.360><c> took</c><00:18:59.520><c> away</c><00:18:59.760><c> was</c><00:19:00.160><c> if</c><00:19:00.480><c> something</c><00:19:00.880><c> bad</c>
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lessons I took away was if something bad
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lessons I took away was if something bad
pops<00:19:01.679><c> up,</c><00:19:02.160><c> don't</c><00:19:02.480><c> ignore</c><00:19:02.640><c> it</c><00:19:02.880><c> hoping</c><00:19:03.120><c> it'll</c><00:19:03.440><c> go</c>
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pops up, don't ignore it hoping it'll go
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pops up, don't ignore it hoping it'll go
away.<00:19:04.320><c> push</c><00:19:04.720><c> back</c><00:19:05.120><c> hard</c><00:19:05.840><c> because</c><00:19:06.160><c> that</c><00:19:06.480><c> is</c>
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away. push back hard because that is
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away. push back hard because that is
what's<00:19:07.039><c> required</c><00:19:07.440><c> here</c><00:19:08.320><c> uh</c><00:19:08.480><c> for</c><00:19:08.720><c> this</c><00:19:09.039><c> kind</c><00:19:09.280><c> of</c>
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what's required here uh for this kind of
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what's required here uh for this kind of
um<00:19:10.400><c> you</c><00:19:10.640><c> know</c><00:19:11.200><c> political</c><00:19:11.840><c> a</c><00:19:12.080><c> literally</c><00:19:12.480><c> a</c><00:19:12.640><c> mega</c>
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um you know political a literally a mega
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um you know political a literally a mega
fever<00:19:13.360><c> dream.</c>
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fever dream.
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fever dream.
>> Well,<00:19:15.120><c> I</c><00:19:15.360><c> would</c><00:19:15.520><c> direct</c><00:19:15.840><c> everyone</c><00:19:16.240><c> to</c><00:19:16.480><c> check</c>
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>> Well, I would direct everyone to check
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>> Well, I would direct everyone to check
out<00:19:16.799><c> the</c><00:19:17.039><c> Substack</c><00:19:17.679><c> essay</c><00:19:17.840><c> that</c><00:19:18.000><c> you</c><00:19:18.160><c> posted</c>
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out the Substack essay that you posted
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out the Substack essay that you posted
this<00:19:18.720><c> afternoon.</c><00:19:19.120><c> We're</c><00:19:19.360><c> going</c><00:19:19.360><c> to</c><00:19:19.520><c> put</c><00:19:19.600><c> the</c>
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this afternoon. We're going to put the
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this afternoon. We're going to put the
link<00:19:20.080><c> here</c><00:19:21.039><c> uh</c><00:19:21.520><c> in</c><00:19:21.679><c> the</c><00:19:21.919><c> description.</c><00:19:22.960><c> And</c><00:19:23.200><c> if</c>
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link here uh in the description. And if
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link here uh in the description. And if
you<00:19:23.600><c> like</c><00:19:23.760><c> what</c><00:19:23.919><c> you're</c><00:19:24.160><c> doing,</c><00:19:24.480><c> make</c><00:19:24.720><c> sure</c>
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you like what you're doing, make sure
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you like what you're doing, make sure
you<00:19:25.039><c> like</c><00:19:25.280><c> and</c><00:19:25.520><c> subscribe</c><00:19:25.840><c> and</c><00:19:26.160><c> share</c>
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you like and subscribe and share
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you like and subscribe and share
content.<00:19:27.360><c> Uh</c><00:19:27.679><c> drop</c><00:19:27.919><c> us</c><00:19:28.080><c> a</c><00:19:28.320><c> message,</c><00:19:28.720><c> a</c>
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content. Uh drop us a message, a
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content. Uh drop us a message, a
question.<00:19:29.760><c> Uh</c><00:19:30.080><c> Markhamm</c><00:19:30.640><c> will</c><00:19:31.280><c> you</c><00:19:31.440><c> know</c>
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question. Uh Markhamm will you know
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question. Uh Markhamm will you know
we'll<00:19:31.919><c> be</c><00:19:32.080><c> watching</c><00:19:32.400><c> this</c><00:19:32.640><c> story</c><00:19:33.200><c> and</c><00:19:33.600><c> keeping</c>
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we'll be watching this story and keeping
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we'll be watching this story and keeping
our<00:19:34.160><c> eyes</c><00:19:34.480><c> obviously</c><00:19:35.760><c> uh</c><00:19:35.919><c> for</c><00:19:36.160><c> more</c>
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our eyes obviously uh for more
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our eyes obviously uh for more
separatist<00:19:37.679><c> news.</c><00:19:38.559><c> So</c><00:19:39.039><c> thanks</c><00:19:39.280><c> for</c><00:19:39.520><c> joining</c>
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separatist news. So thanks for joining
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separatist news. So thanks for joining
us<00:19:40.320><c> and</c><00:19:41.200><c> we'll</c><00:19:41.520><c> see</c><00:19:41.679><c> you</c><00:19:41.760><c> again</c><00:19:42.000><c> next</c><00:19:42.320><c> time.</c>